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Buzz Out Loud (MP3)
Newest Episode: Thu September 02, 2010. 07:31 PM
Buzz Out Loud features Molly Wood, Rafe Needleman and producer Jason Howell, along with CNET's top tech experts reviewing the day's tech news. Each episode, the crew analyzes, interprets, and argues about what all this technology means and what it's doing to us. Fans can take part by calling, e-mailing, or commenting on the blog.
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Tue November 04, 2008. 07:51 PM
Hey, here's a thought: a free, open-source video codec that could be universally portable and playable. I'd vote for that, wouldn't you? In other news of the day, Dash stops making hardware to focus on software, Apple brings in an IBM guy to run the iPod division (other than Steve Jobs), and BlackBerry sneaks the Bold into stores today. Yeah, today. There's got to be something wrong with that thing.

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EPISODE 845

Apple’s iPod chief to step down

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10082065-37.html

Dash Navigation pulls the plug on hardware. Whoops.

http://venturebeat.com/2008/11/03/dash-navigation-layoffs-innovation-loses-commodity-gps-wins/

AT&T will gamble with monthly bandwidth caps in Nevada

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081103-att-will-gamble-with-monthly-bandwidth-caps-in-nevada.html

Comcastic P4P trial shows 80 percent speed boost for P2P downloads

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081103-comcastic-p4p-trial-shows-80-speed-boost-for-p2p-downloads.html

Could Theora solve the video codec confusion?

http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/04/136220

This holiday season good time to cut a deal on an HDTV?

http://www.displaysearch.com/cps/rde/xchg/displaysearch/hs.xsl/Sneak_Preview_of_Holiday_Shopping_Season_200810.asp

How to watch Election Day live online

http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/11/how-to-watch-election-day-live-online

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10081981-38.html

http://www.mahalo.com/Election_Exit_Polls_2008

Update: E-voting problems reported early in battleground states

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9118983

FCC Election Day vote could revolutionize wireless

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10081864-94.html

BlackBerry Bold on sale in U.S. today

http://www.betanews.com/article/BlackBerry_Bold_on_sale_in_US_today/1225810411

VOICE MAIL

Jason in Cincinnati: the joke’s on you (?)

E-MAIL

Hey Buzz crew:

http://news.opensuse.org/2008/11/03/development-release-opensuse-111-beta-4-now-available/

We’ve just released openSUSE 11.1 Beta 4, the newest prerelease version of what will become openSUSE 11.1 on it’s planned public release date of December 18, 2008.

Most of the things in this beta are simply bug fixes from the past beta. For more information on the release of openSUSE 11.1, keep in touch with that openSUSE News Web site above.

BTW, on the screenshots, the desktop wallpaper on the right is the actual wallpaper, the other wallpaper is an old testing wallpaper ;-).

Thanks and I love the show and hope to hear more desktop Linux coverage on BOL.

Kevin “Yeaux” Dupuy - openSUSE Member

Hey, Jimoto,

I have Verizon DSL at my home in Baltimore, and pay $44 month for there service. I just received an email (see below) informing me that I “will soon begin seeing advertisements in your Verizon Yahoo! Mail service. Advertising allows us to deliver new and innovative services and helps us keep prices competitive.” To make things clear, Verizon web mail interface is provided by yahoo.

I went to my (non-Verizon) yahoo account, and I do not pay for had no such message. So now I get to pay $44 for DSL and ads in my e-mail. Thankfully I use gmail as my main account, and my Verizon as my spam dump.

Love the show

Aaron R.

Baltimore, MD

I went to vote this morning and was shocked by how long the line was.

As I was walking to the back of the line I was saying hello to the

people I knew but was shocked and impressed that one of my fellow

voters was passing the time with a Kindle. It was smaller than I was

expecting. Of course with the big O’s endorcement of the Kindle I’m

tempted to get one for my wife for Christmas.

Love the Show.

Tim (from Detroit)

hello and happy voting day tmj + 1:

Responding to Tom’s skepticism about yesterday’s email. China doesn’t

purge everything that is banned. A censor’s zeal are on a par with

level of the threat. China won’t actively seek out torrents of New

York Times or The Daily Show. But they will religiously kill anything

about the Tibetan riot.

So Yes, packets are easy to kill. But the Internet and the billion

dollar piracy industry did alter the government’s attitude. As long

as people leave the communist party alone(and stay in power) they will

let you do almost anything.

love the show

J.Chen, the immigrant

Ok, guys. I have to call you to task on this one. Your reporting of the decision yesterday was patently (pun intended) erroneous. The Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit (CAFC) DID NOT get rid of patent protection for software, nor did it get rid of patent protection for business methods. Quoting, “:We further reject calls for categorical exclusions… We rejected those exclusions in State Street.” They reaffirmed their conclusion in State Street, the decision that emphatically said that business methods could be protected by a patent. What happened in Bilski, though nuanced legally, is basically the CAFC going back to an earlier standard for determining if you have patentable subject matter. The Court did not rule on whether Bilski was obvious (it is, in my opinion), they just ruled whether Bilski should pass the first test, is it patentable subject matter. The new tests are really a restatement of old tests from the Supreme Court, set down in the BFD triumvirate (yes, patent lawyers have a sense of humor).

In my personal professional opinion, this was a horrible decision and mucks about where Congress never intended the Courts to muck about. What the PTO should be doing is determining whether something is new and non-obvious, not trying to decipher whether Congress intended it to be patentable subject matter. we already have good exclusions regarding natural laws, algorithms per se and mental steps. What this decision just did was cost corporate America huge amounts of money to scramble to incorporate the language the CAFC said we should have. My personal prediction is that this will probably only knock out a small percentage of the patent portfolios. Computer software companies should be pretty ok. Business method companies are in a little more trouble, but not fatally so.

The decision was handed down on Thursday of last week, and I have yet to see a mainstream news site get it right. Perhaps because the decision is so nuanced when you really read it. Perhaps it is also because this will not be the final chapter. I believe that the Supreme Court should pick this up and again slap down the CAFC for writing bad law. Unfortunately, when the Supremes do that, they typically write equally bad law in its place.

Bob, “The Patent Lawyer”

P.S. Weather here is beautiful. Love my iPhone. Love the show. Miss Molly.

Hey buzz Crew -

I was just listening to episode 844 and heard your comment about 256 cores and laughing about a supercomputer, but the truth of it is, if Windows 7 does include GPU acceleration (http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/27/windows-7-to-feature-gpu-acceleration-just-like-os-x-snow-leopar/) then its very plausible that 256 cores may not even be enough. Think about nVidia’s GTX 280 that has 240 processing cores and ATI’s 4870X2 that has 1600 processing cores.

Just saying, if Windows 7 could use graphics card processing for everyday tasks, it could be a leap that would make Nehalem/Core i7 look like a joke.

Mike from Georgia Tech, member of Buzz Mafia
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First if you're a U.S. citizen, then go vote on Tuesday. Second, feel the pride of what we suspect to be our country's lead in space junk. We also cover the new Nehalem processor details, uncover a few more details about Windows 7, and of course, give you more details on the space junk that may hit your head tomorrow. I suspect it's the nefarious plot of one candidate or another to keep you from the polls.

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Episode 844

Intel Core i7 chip reviews arrive–yes, it’s fast

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10080831-64.html

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/03/1324208

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081103-intel-lifts-curtain-on-nehalem-performance-hint-its-fast.html

Windows 7 ‘pre-beta’ washes up on Pirate Bay and co

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/03/windows_7_pre_beta_bittorrent/

Windows 7 to be 256-core aware

http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/11/02/0130253.shtml

Inside Windows 7’s new desktop

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10080417-56.html

Circuit City to close 155 stores

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10080934-92.html

Behind the Cogent-Sprint depeering

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/03/0143239

U.S. court throws out most software patents

http://www.itexaminer.com/us-court-throws-out-most-software-patents.aspx

MySpace and MTV monetize pirated content With Auditude

http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/11/myspace-and-mtv.html

Amazon takes a stand to eliminate wasteful, hard-to-open gadget packaging

http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/amazon-takes-a-stand-to-eliminate-wasteful-hard-to-open-gadget/

Technology voter guide

http://news.cnet.com/2009-1040-6247428.html

Space litter to hit Earth tomorrow

http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/01/2010247

Voice mail

Tommy in Kingston - CueCat User

Mike in Mansfield - Problem with DTV converter box

Shane in Vegas - Chrome advertising returns

E-mail

After you install the leaked beta version of Windows 7 takes exactly 7.01 GB of space and BTW uses less memory 350MB RAM iddle after installation and 500 with 10 tabs of firefox open and a virus scan with Avst at the same time.

Allex from Romania

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On show 842, last caller mention decentralizing torrent server doesn’t

help anyone other than pirates. Well, as a Chinese I can tell you the

closest thing to “freedom of speech in china” is torrent. It bypass

the great firewall of china. And once torrent servers are

decentralized the cost of censorship will start to out-weight it’s

merits.

This is one of the reason why tech-savvy Chinese cringe when a

journalist claim “there is no free speech in china”. I mean, if they

don’t go to illegal downloading sites. How are they going to see

illegal free-speeches?

really, really love the show

J.Chen, the immigrant

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Yo buzz crew,

I was disappointed to see that you did not cover the rather large news of Ubuntu 8.10 coming out this past week, the newest version of the worlds most popular Linux distribution. I was sure you would mention it, if only so you could play the Linux chaser theme tune.

I have come to terms with the fact that you are obviously freedom haters who don’t want to give open source software like Ubuntu it’s due, but come on, at least play the linux theme tune. You know you want to.

James

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I am tired of hearing physical media is dead and Blu-ray is going nowhere. And I mean that in a polite way, I don’t like how tone can come across in an email.

Amazon isn’t the end-all be-all, but it is a good trend tracker….

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/172514/ref=pd_ts_e_nav

This top 25 list of DVD players show the top 5 sellers are Blu-ray players.

3rd Best selling electronic item overall is a Blu-ray player.

Prices will come down to meet a decent up-converting player, so people that want a bit better DVD player obviously is just getting a Blu-ray.

So many people don’t have broadband, don’t even know they can get shows on TV, they only know about youtube.

Blu-ray definitely has some life in it. I love digital distribution, but it has a LONG way to go to even hit the mainstream, and longer to supplany physical media.

Just my two cents.

Erick soon to be from Manhattan Beach
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Thu October 30, 2008. 07:25 PM
Google has joined the OpenID crowd, but just like Microsoft and Yahoo, you can't use the OpenID on Google, but you can use Google credentials other places. Unlike Microsoft and Yahoo though, Google has decided to tweak the OpenID implementation a little to make it better. That means that it's nonstandard and won't work for all standards-compliant OpenID servers. Bullies. We also admire the new DRM-free music store from clothing retailer, Hot Topic. Really.

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Episode 842

TiVo to stream Netflix

http://newteevee.com/2008/10/29/october-surprise-tivo-to-stream-netflix/

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10078711-1.html

MTV and Apple announce Beatles music project

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/30/rock-band-the-beatles-now-official/

Motorola: No Google Android ‘GPhones’ til next christmas

http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/10/motorola-no-google-android-gphones-til-next-christmas

OpenMoko working up Android-based handset?

http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/30/openmoko-working-up-android-based-handset/

Hands on: Windows Media Player 12’s surprising new features

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081030-hands-on-windows-media-player-12s-surprising-new-features.html

Court rules hash analysis is a Fourth Amendment “search”

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081029-court-rules-hash-analysis-is-a-fourth-amendment-search.html

Google abandons standards, forks OpenID

http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/google-doesnt-use-openid/

http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/10/29/2043218.shtml

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081029-openid-being-balkanized-even-as-google-microsoft-sign-on.html

Study shows social networking at work is good

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/29/2212254

Hot Topic launches DRM-free music service

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10078414-2.html

USB Port is neither USB nor Port, just amazing

http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/30/usb-port-is-neither-usb-nor-port-just-amazing/

Voice mail

Shane in Vegas - iPhone firmware 2.2’s nifty new feature

http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/10/downloadpodcast.html#more

Erin in New York - You know who else uses wireless mics

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081029-rockers-refuse-to-throw-the-horns-for-white-space-broadband.html

James Irvine - Decentralized search

E-mail

Hey Buzz Crew

Just thought I’d let you know there is a hybrid F-150 in the works saw it on auto blog and I’ve tried the RFID package at the Chicago auto show and it is SWEET asked them how much the RFID’s cost $. 25 but you have to buy them in packs

Love the show

Tristan

P.S.thought you might find it cool that As an aerospace welder our shop has been working on an X prize rocket I’d give you more details but I can’t

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Hi Buzz Crew,

I know you guys don’t like it and maybe you think its stupid but I will admit it: Google Goggles is a good thing. When I heard about it on your podcast I immediate activated it for my main Gmail account. I keep it on level one but I know sometimes when I am really drunk I can’t even do those simple calculations on my calculator that is right next to my computer.

So maybe people won’t admit it but I will. Sometimes I send out stupid (drunk) emails. (To bad this isn’t used on my phone too

You guys have always said that Google doesn’t do anything stupid (non-productive). Believe me people will use it, even if they don’t admit it.

For those of us who like the service,

Thurman

Brooklyn, NY

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In response to the caller's question on Episode 841 "What use is Google Earth"? - I work at an architecture firm in Dallas, TX, and we use Google Earth to place 3D models of client projects (created in Google SketchUp) into their actual location during the design process. This allows us to present our designs to our clients in a 3D format that they can manipulate from their own computers. This also has the added benefit of populating Google Earth with a few more 3D buildings for the people who just use it to look at stuff. There's my two cents - Love the show!

Chase
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Wed October 29, 2008. 06:54 PM
Microsoft is putting Office online. No time soon, but it will happen. Also Netflix will stream movies in HD. Not until mid-November. And only for Xbox Live paying members. But hey, why would we want to satisfy anyone now. Of course, quantum cryptography has also been hacked. So nothing's sacred. You still need to listen, though, to find out why Dolly Parton opposes Google.

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Episode 841

Microsoft to offer Office online

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10077535-2.html

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081028-microsoft-office-will-float-to-the-cloud-with-office-web.html

MS offers peek through Windows 7

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7695933.stm

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10077484-75.html

Microsoft doubles reward for teen who ran away after his parents pilfered his 360

http://gizmodo.com/5069904/microsoft-doubles-reward-for-teen-that-ran-away-after-his-parents-pilfered-his-360

Dolly Parton enters ‘white space’ debate

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10077742-94.html

Researchers decentralize BitTorrent

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/28/1722214

Quantum key distribution meets the real world, fails

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081029-quantum-key-distribution-meets-the-real-world-fail.html

HD Netflix streaming comes to Xbox 360 first

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/29/hd-netflix-streaming-comes-to-xbox-360-first/

AC/DC confuse Donald with Excel spreadsheet video and CD-only distro

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/ACDCs-Black-Ice-CD-Album/story.aspx?guid={0A29BF85-6030-4239-A18D-86082628C6A4}

http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/06/poll-should-acd.html

http://gizmodo.com/5068899/acdc-excel-spreadsheet-music-video-has-us-thunderstruck

Walmart relaunches MP3 store with $0.74 MP3s

http://gizmodo.com/5070019/walmart-selling-drm+free-mp3s-for-74-cents-finally-mac-and-linux-friendly-too

The VCR is dead

http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/10/28/the-vcr-is-dead.html

DTV transition will ‘puke’ on environment, says recycling group

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/10/dtv-transition.html

Voice mail

JL in Minnepaolis

War of the Worlds - twitter.com/wotw2

Mark from Florida

What use is Google Earth

E-mail

…to the internet today, October 29, 2008!

39 years old. Up next: mid-life crisis.

(The first message ever to be sent over the then ARPANET (sent over

the first host-to-host connection) occurred at 10:30 PM on October 29,

1969. It was sent by UCLA student programmer Charley Kline and

supervised by UCLA Professor Leonard Kleinrock. The message was sent

from the UCLA computer to a computer at the Stanford Research

Institute. The message itself was simply the word “login.” The “l”

and the “o” transmitted without problem but then the system crashed.

Hence, the first message on the ARPANET was “lo”. They were able to do

the full login about an hour later.)

But you knew that…

Digital Dave in San Diego

http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~lk/LK/Inet/1stmesg.html

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Relatively new listener here. It’s been about 2 weeks. I heard about you guys when someone(I forget who) was on Twit. The reason I like the show is because it gives me something to listen to on a daily basis instead of once a week like Revision 3.

After listening to Friday’s show I wanted to comment on how this listener can return a Console game after opening it. You take it to the customer service desk and say I forgot my receipt and this game doesn’t work for my console. They will replace it with another. They will go and get a new one. MOST of the time they will forget to unwrap the plastic. They will give you a new game with the plastic back on and then you can go to another Wal-Mart a few miles down the road or that same Wal-Mart the next day with your receipt and get your money back.

Thanks,

Steve Rehnborg

Raleigh, NC by way of Ohio

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What’s Microsoft calling their cloud computing solution? Azure. Check out the Mac Dictionary’s definition of Azure:

bright blue in color, like a cloudless sky

Cloudless! I love it.

Richard Gunther

Washington, D.C.
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Hey, this sounds like a good idea! Create an artificial intelligence that's the incarnation of pure evil and immorality. You know, just to "study" it. It'll never get out. (Ugh.) So, that's happening today, along with Microsoft's announcement of its cloud OS, Azure; Chevy determines that hybrid SUVs won't make money no matter how you build them, and Wired tries to say the DMCA has been a good thing. Oh, and in addition to Oprah, Molly likes Martha.

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EPISODE 840

Microsoft's Azure cloud platform: A guide for the perplexed

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1671

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/27/220208

http://dev.live.com/blogs/devlive/archive/2008/10/27/421.aspx

Authors, publishers, and Google reach landmark settlement

http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/20081027_booksearchagreement.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10076948-38.html

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/28/145249

Chrysler gives up on hybrid-powered SUV’s

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=134227

Ford offers RFID system to make sure all your stuff is in your truck

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-10076160-48.html

10 years later, misunderstood DMCA is the law that saved the Web

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/ten-years-later.html

AOL tightening belt, to kill off three more products

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081028-aol-tightening-belt-to-kill-off-three-more-products.html

Darkstrand lights up LambdaRail for commercial use

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081027-darkstrand-lights-up-lambdarail-for-commercial-use.html

Laptop shipments exceed desktops in U.S. for the not-exactly-first time

http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/28/laptop-shipments-exceed-desktops-in-us-for-the-not-exactly-first/

Martha Stewart’s company picks Pingg for invites

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10076903-36.html

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Lee from Boston: Netbooks!

E-MAIL

A Netbook has to be priced below the excepted price of a “Cheap”

standard laptop (e.g., runs Vista and has a CD-ROM). Right now, that would be $800. (??)

It also needs to be small. Size should be comparable to the “ultra-mobile”. I.e., less than “12.

So, the market dictates the price, but the size it a fixed factor.

I made this up myself, so I’m pretty sure it’s right.

Ben, the sysadmin from MSP.

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JaMoTo,,

I was appalled to come across this article today--just when I thought we were safe (for a while anyway) because the LHC had broken down,

it seems a bunch of “genius” scientists (naturally) decided it would be a good idea to develop an AI program that brings “personified evil to virtual life”--on purpose no less!! They’ve given it a name and a face, talk to it daily, and it’s programmed to answer questions based on the principle of carrying out premeditated acts that are immoral and harmful to others. By some twisted logic, this is supposed to help them research human morality.

http://io9.com/5069465/a-computer-program-that-is-pure-evil

WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE THINKING!!! Could they have, at least, left out the premeditated part?? And what lunatic agreed to fund this project !!

Loved the show.

Bill in Dallas

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I like the show Chuck on NBC. I hate the band Rush. I own a original Zune. I hate all things Apple. Last night, Morgan, Chuck’s buddy on the show, was asked by Chuck if the Buymart (Best Buy) had any Rush music for sale. Morgan exclaimed that he had rush on his Zune. Chuck acted perplexed by Morgan’s statement. Morgan quickly rehashed his statement, claiming that he really owned an iPod, not a Zune. At first I was giddy on the Zune statement, but I did laugh at Morgan’s rehash. P.S. the old Grand Dad (Bad Santa’s favorite) justifies my grammar. Been listening since about 720 .

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Hey guys,

I’m currently one month into my four month round-the-world trip, and I’ve

got to say that at all the hostels I’m staying at, everyone is using

Netbooks, mostly eeepc’s. I, myself, am using an MSI Wind. It’s great

for e-mailing home, updating my blog and checking Facebook, not to

mention watching movies on the train and downloading podcasts.

Netbooks are a backpackers best friend.

Cheers Doug the (British) backpacker.

P.S. Tom, I made it to the CNET building and tried the coffee from Chatz. It was, indeed, a great cup of coffee. See here for proof.

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As an FIOS customer, you can absolutely just get a splitter and run it to a TV. However, the TV must be able to receive QAM channels (which every new TV I’ve seen does). For those with older TVs, Verizon offers free Digital Converter boxes to be able to receive the Clear QAM channels on an analog television. With both ways, only basic channels are viewable. These are mostly the same channels available over the air and the channels I most watch anyway. If you want all the premium encrypted channels, your only options are to shell out the cash for a set top box or cable card.

Love the show,

Brian from New York

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With the conversation on divided attention and multiple tabs, I find that I have developed tabnesia. Tabnesia is when you look at the tab that you opened sometime ago with no idea why you were at that Web site. Spread the meme. Love the show.

CtNP

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I can confirm Molly’s thoughts on the “copyright law” excuse for not accepting opened media returns. It is a business decision that they are attempting to deflect the responsibility for implementing.

Chris the attorney in DC

P.S. I tried to be short and sweet on this one, because when I attempted to use hyperbole to make a point regarding Netbooks in my last e-mail, you guys gave me such a hard time that I didn’t get out of bed for a week due to the pain inflicted on my self-esteem. But at least I had my eee pc to surf to self-help sites with…

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Based on your report, I rushed home from my dog walking, during which I always listen to BOL, to access my Netflix account to Watch Instantly a movie on my Mac. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find anything on the Netflix site that allowed anything but a PC. I called Netflix and Sebastian said that it’s only available on a closed beta for Intel Mac’s that they won’t add anyone to. He repeated what they have been telling me for months now: “It will be generally available ’soon,’ before the end of the year.” Bummer!

Love the show.

Still waiting,

Dan

Dublin, Ohio
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Mon October 27, 2008. 06:55 PM
What? What's wrong with you people? We're talking about Netbooks. Dell has a new "Mini" Note, but it's a 12-inch laptop. So, the question is: what is going on in the Netbook world these days? Also, the Internet makes you both smarter AND dumber, Google Earth shows up for iPhone, and Oprah gives out a Kindle discount. And Natali and Molly love Oprah. Deal with it.

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EPISODE 839

Sling.com launch

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/26/slingcom-to-launch-on-november-10/

Google Earth for iPhone/Touch

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10075543-37.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10075860-37.html

iPhone most popular camera on Flickr

http://www.edibleapple.com/iphone-still-reigns-supreme-on-flickr/

Qik for BlackBerry

http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/webware/~3/433186788/8301-17939_109-10075395-2.html

Dell Inspiron Mini 12-inch launch

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/pressoffice/en/2008/2008_10_26_rr_000?c=us&l=en&s=corp

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/10/dell-mini-inspi.html

Security flaw revealed in T-Mobile’s Google phone

http://news.cnet.com/Security-flaw-revealed-in-T-Mobiles-Google-phone/2100-1002_3-6247261.html

Netflix streams to Macs

http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/433102357/

http://www.macworld.com/article/136380/2008/10/netflix.html

The Internet makes you smarter but may give you ADD

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE49Q2YW20081027

Cable TV provider plans its own wireless network (thanks trails2hike!)

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/biztech/10/27/cox.wireless.ap/index.html

Want $50 off an Amazon Kindle? Thank Oprah

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2333338,00.asp

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Jason the Runner: get my wife off the Oprah

Michah: Can’t split the UVerse

E-MAIL

Thomas:

You mentioned on Friday about the Speed Date application taking over for Oregon Trail. That has already happened at least one time before. I had one of those "wall" programs e.g. Fun Wall, Wild Wall, whatever. The Wall program went away and I got an e-mail announcing it's now Speed Date. I didn't remove the application or anything but I would get these e-mails saying that I matched with someone and someone was wanting to contact me, etc. I clicked on one one day for the heck of it and it asked me to fill in my information like name, e-mail, etc. I am a married man so I decided not to do that! After getting a bunch of e-mails about people wanting to match, I uninstalled the application when I figured out how.

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Dear Buzz Crew,

The name ‘Minefield’ is used during all betas. And it uses the Firefox logo without the fox. So basically a globe. With a wick on it. So it looks like a field mine. Think of the mines as bugs. To be exploded and thus removed before the final release.

That is all.

Thanks for reading,

Dylan from KC

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Hi Buzz Town,

This is in response to the e-mailer from episode 838 who tried to return his Rock Band 2 video game to Wal-Mart. I worked as a supervisor for a major competitor to Wal-Mart (starts with a “T”) for almost seven years, and was frequently the one behind the counter having to turn away such returns. This is a policy that every retailer I know of that sells unopened media has. Every store has their own policy about how long you have to make the return, assuming that the software/video game/CD/DVD is unopened, but once the product is opened, the ONLY action they can take is to exchange it for the same product. At the time that I was working in this position, we not only could only exchange it for the product, but we actually had to OPEN the product before the customer left the store (for the obvious reason). As a matter of fact, all of the media we sold was supposed to have a little white sticker adhered to it stating this very policy.

While I am not a lawyer, and my education in any kind of law doesn’t stem beyond Business Law 101, I, along with my co-workers, all knew that the reason for this policy was due to copyright, even though our corporate policies never directly stated this. Even in the days of Game Boys and N64’s, this policy applied, I guess because it was assumed that somebody, somewhere, had the equipment to make illegal copies of these console games that you could not even place into your CD drive. In all of the years that I worked in this position, I almost never had a customer give me a difficult time regarding this policy. They all seemed to understand, and even if they did challenge us, we would always offer the excuse the federal copyright law prohibits us from taking back these open products, and they were welcome to go to our competitor to try to return the item, but they would be met with the same frustration. That’s one of the reasons for used video games stores!

A hint for the e-mailer: assuming there are no markings on the copy that you bought online that would identify it as a product from a certain retailer, and the UPC is the same, you can always take THAT copy back to Wal-Mart (assuming it’s unopened).

Love the show…

Stephanie in Atlanta

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Hi there, BOL crew (greatest-podcast-in-the-cloud), I was listening to episode 838, and you had an e-mail from someone that wasn’t able to return his Rock Band game he bought from Walmart because of “Federal Copyright Law”, which Molly said she had never heard of and you generally all passed of as BS from a Wal-Mart customer service rep.

Well, I would have been in the same mind frame until yesterday. I work at Best Buy’s Geek Squad, where a customer approached me wanting to return a game she had purchased along with her new $1,200 laptop the day prior because no one told her that it wasn’t compatible with Vista. Despite the fact she came to the wrong counter, since I am not a customer service rep, I was more than willing to see what we could do for her, since I felt it was a simple oversight, and it was only a $10 game. When I asked a customer service supervisor if we would be able to exchange it for a different game for her, I was told that we couldn’t because of “Federal copyright law”! I know our policy is that we normally don’t return open software unless its defective, and even then we can only exchange it for the SAME software, but I figured we could make an exception. It took me by surprise, because I had never heard anything about this law before, and then you at the BOL podcast reiterated it. We made an exception in her case since we didn’t want to come off as total jerks (at least I didn’t). It makes sense, though, that we normally wouldn’t not return it, since we cannot resell open software once its open, the store pretty much has to eat the price of the software, which is not a good business model. Also, if we returned open soft, it would be quite possible for a customer to not only copy software, but copy down activation codes for products such as antivirus, or certain video games, and screw over the next customer who would want to purchase.

In short, this “Federal Copyright Law” in regards to software is not just a Wal-Mart reps attempt to blow off a customer, but actually a policy that carries over to legitimate establishments like Best Buy.

~Wez (The-geek-squad-agent-who-doesn’t-want-to-hear-the-same-best-buy-ads-in-BOL-anymore)

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I liked that BitTorrent is used as the distribution method for their content but there is a larger issue at hand: Wikipedia used as a reference source in schools. Isn’t Wikipedia banned as a reference source in many areas of academia?

Michael
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On today's show, it appears that the person who caused Apple's stock to drop like a stone on reports of a Steve Jobs heart attack was just "doing it for the lulz." So, he didn't even short-sell the stock? Wow. Stupid trolls. Also, Oprah declares the Amazon Kindle her most favoritest gadget of all time. Wow. Kindle for President?

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EPISODE 838

Report: Teen planted fake story about Steve Jobs

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10074401-37.html

Will the Kindle Get an Oprah Bump?

http://www.nytimes.com/external/gigaom/2008/10/24/24gigaom-will-the-kindle-get-an-oprah-bump-26376.html

Gmail adds emoticons, canned responses & updates mobile client

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10074527-2.html

BlackBerry Bold set for election day launch (thanks C McLeod!)

http://keith.jaseblog.com/BlogPostComments.asp?ditsop=1309

Dell PCs get preloaded with DRM-free UMG music

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10074001-1.html

Sprint releases availability dates for HTC Touch Pro

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10074602-1.html

BMW seeking partners for open-source car-software platform

http://www.motorauthority.com/bmw-seeking-partners-for-open-source-car-software-platform.html

ESA confirms new E3 dates, growth

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-10072879-52.html

Cablevision’s high-tech way to avoid disgruntled pottymouths

http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/10/cablevision-s-high-tech-way-to-ignore-disgruntled-customers-cvc-

Wikipedia DVD released on BitTorrent (Thanks, Nate!)

http://torrentfreak.com/wikipedia-dvd-released-on-bittorrent-081024/

Woman in jail over virtual murder (Thanks, Chase!)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7688091.stm

Oregon Trail Facebook app to be replaced with dating service

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10074004-2.html

VOICEMAIL

Tom in England: currency gloating

E-MAIL

Hey Buzz Crew,

I often hear you (especially Tom and Molly) discussing, as a group, households that have a second TV that is antenna-only. I’ve always wondered, but never bothered to ask--why? No, not why wouldn’t they subscribe to cable--I didn’t for the first 22 years of my life--but why, if you subscribe to cable, would you hook it up to one TV and not the other? I mean seriously, who doesn’t know how to use a splitter in 2008? I’m somewhat confused by the idea of a “back-room” TV in the first place, but if you have one, why not just use a splitter and run cable to both? I have a 13-inch TV purchased in 1992 in my bedroom, and without cable hooked up to it, the picture is completely unclear and not worth watching. I guess that’s my version of a “back-room” TV, but with cable I can clearly pick up about 90 percent of the cable channels to which I subscribe. Realizing that perhaps some people are afraid to deal with wires, I should note that my cable provider, which is absolutely awful, was willing to perform this service for me if I did not know how to do it myself! Therefore, I am confused. Why have cable on one TV and not on the other? Do any of you actually do this, or are you just assuming that people do this? Please let me know. Great show. Thanks.

-Mark

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Hey buzz brigade,

It's Scott, a listener from way back in the 790s. Just thought I would let you know about an experience I had today with Wal-Mart and the copyright laws we all know and love so very much.

I bought Rock Band 2 for the Playstation 3 from Wal-Mart on Tuesday. I then saw it for a lower price online, so, being the cheapskate I am, I ordered it online then tried to return the copy I got at Wal-Mart. I proceeded to find, when I went to return it, that because of “Federal Copyright law” they could not allow me to return it and get my money back. I could, however, exchange it for another copy or so that’s what the lady in “Customer Service” said. So, I just took the game back home with me and I’m thinking of an Ebay auction or stopping by Ebgames to see if I can get anything for it. I know Molly will say “Just cancel the online order!” Well, it's already shipped and unless I want to pay 15 percent restocking fee and return shipping cost I end up with two copies.

Now for a small rant. I can see this law affecting returns on PC games, but consoles? I mean, come on! Sure, you could rip a PC game with ease or at least install it, find a no CD crack. But a console?! Especially the PS3! I mean, there is no way I’m spending 300-plus dollars for a Blu-Ray drive, and even then there is no way (that I know of) for running it the copy or even an ISO off the hard drive!! GAH!! OK, that should be enough

Love the show. Keep it up.

By the way, Rock Band 2 is awesome.

Nothing found in the wild……….yet!

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Hey Sports Fans!

I don’t really like sports...but that is beyond the point!

I just watched a “sneak peak” of the entire first episode of season 3 of 30 Rock!

It doesn’t air on TV until the 30th. Does this happen often!?

Love you guys

Elam

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Hey Buzz Town,

I saw a story on news.com that was interesting to me. Mozilla has a new browser, called Minefield, which is really fast. It is not a final release product, but it is still pretty and seems to work well. Most of the add-ons that I have installed work well, but I have run into a few bugs. Still it is well worth the speed.

The Mozilla page is here: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minefield

The news.com article http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10073252-16.html

Love the show,

Brad in Ohio
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Comcast offers faster Internet speeds, but doesn't raise its data transfer caps; studies show that gamers aren't that nerdy (ruining future punch lines for generations of comedians); Microsoft goes outside the lines to issue a critical security patch (yikes!); and Samsung tries to entice you to Blu-Ray by offering Netflix streams. Eh?

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Episode 837

Comcast broadens reach of DOCSIS 3.0, 50Mbps connections

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a4BqkB8tlV.s

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081022-comcast-broadens-reach-of-docsis-3-0-50mbps-connections.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10073404-2.html

Broadband users reach their limit

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7684322.stm

Study squashes myth of gamer as antisocial Comic Book Guy

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081022-study-squashes-myth-of-gamer-as-antisocial-comic-book-guy.html

20% of antenna users to let TV sets go dark in 2009

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081022-20-of-antenna-users-to-let-tv-sets-go-dark-in-2009.html

Forecast: Legal P2P uses growing 10x faster than illegal ones

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081022-forecast-legal-p2p-uses-growing-10x-faster-than-illegal-ones.html

Tech layoff spreadsheet

http://news.cnet.com/tech-layoffs/?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.0

Microsoft issues ‘critical’ patch outside normal cycle

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10073787-83.html

Netflix, Samsung partner on video streaming

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10073519-1.html

Scientists erase specific memories in mice

http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/23/0315240

Researchers developing cancer-fighting beer

http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/22/2230223

Voice mail

G-Dog: Xbox Live chatter

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Think about this the next Christmas while you are wrapping your presents...

[link: http://gizmodo.com/5067362/researchers-build-x+ray-machine-with-scotch-tape ]

"Russian scientists discovered that simple Scotch tape emits x-rays when peeled off glass. New research conducted by colleagues at UCLA has determined that the power that the tape generates is much higher than anyone could have imagined. In fact, they have constructed a machine that generates x-rays by peeling up Scotch tape in a vacuum at the rate of 3 centimeters per second. As you can see in the recent demo they did for the journal Nature, their device was able to successfully generate an x-ray of a finger."

When asked to comment on the safety aspect of scotch tape, the scientist responded with, "I will continue to use Scotch tape during my daily life, and I think it’s safe to do it in your office. No guarantees.”

Haha. Awesome. Youtube video proof at gizmodo too...

-dr. karl J

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I thought I would never get a topic on BOL that I could actually write into the show with some intelligence about. Regarding Episode 830 and 835 and the “dirty” environment that the MacBook is made in.

Several issues here from Brian Cooley’s rant, first, about the paint on the machines chipped off? Big chunks of metal moving around and you expect paint to stick to the equipment? Paint is not a maintenance issue, paint is cosmetic. Even if the paint would hold up to the constant hammering of thousands of pounds of aluminum banging against it daily, it also would have to hold up to the constant coolant spray. I am surprised there was ANY paint left.

Second, to his claim of seeing cleaner plants, especially Japanese automotive plants. I have been to American automotive plants, and I have been to Japanese plants in Japan. In any country, in any industry, what they show you on a ‘tour’ is what they want you to see. A clean pretty shop assembling pristine parts on a white floor. They will never show you the compressor room, the stamping plant, or anything dirty, loud, and greasy. They know what perception means. Even silicone wafer plants have a big tank of oil somewhere with a whole bunch of greasy equipment, even if you never see it.

Thanks,

Mike the Lubricant Guy

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So the other day I was walking through my local Target, and there sitting at the end of the aisle was a display of the Sony E-readers. OK so it wasn’t one owned by somebody but they had a freaking E-Reader on display at Target. So I stood there and played with it. My mom was just staring at me from across the aisle, thinking how strange I was for thinking this device was so rare and cool. I tried to explain to her what it was but she didn’t get the point. Oh well I guess only true geeks can understand the awesomeness of an E-Reader.

Loving the show,

Josh from Indiana
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It looks like Wii Fit will outsell Grand Theft Auto IV this year, Apple's already sold 10 million iPhones, people are lining up for the T-Mobile G1 Android phone (much to our surprise), and just when we started to think the economy might be turning around after all, we got the news about Yahoo laying off some 1,400-plus people. Ouch.

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EPISODE 836

T-Mobile delivers the G1 (aka Android) phone

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10072545-94.html

http://news.cnet.com/2300-1039_3-6247193-1.html

Google’s open-source Android now actually open

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10071093-92.html

Yahoo profit drops; at least 1,430 to lose jobs

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10071637-93.html

Wii Fit on track to outsell GTA IV this year

http://gigaom.com/2008/10/21/wii-fit-on-track-to-outsell-gta-iv-this-year/

Apple officially surpasses 10 million iPhones sold in 2008

http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/10/21/apple-officially-surpasses-10-million-iphones-sold-in-2008

eBay goes pro-elephant, bans ivory sales--after the holidays

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081021-ebay-goes-pro-elephant-bans-ivory-salesafter-the-holidays.html

Boxee adds support for Hulu, CBS video

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10072002-2.html

New media player searches for spoken words in videos

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10069806-2.html

Device answers phone and stops telemarkerters

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7682111.stm

Robotic surgery on a beating heart

http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/21/1914255

VOICEMAIL

Anonymous DMCA: Couric clip was about Clinton

Jeff from Nashville: on laws and politicians

E-MAIL

Congratulations on the nomination. If the Buzz Brigade (still not sure I like the moniker) is discouraged, then maybe we should find a show done by one of the community in some obscure category and vote for that show. If only we could think of one.

Chris, the nominated podcaster

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Tom mentioned that if you lose purchased content on a PS3 you were pretty much zitty out of luck, and there was no easy way to back it up. If you format an external drive, ( I used a $40 Seagate 120gig FreeAgent Go) FAT32, you can add the needed PS3 directories and copy your content. Of course, you have to use something such as Acronis to do this, as XP and Vista won't do it .

Thanks for the heads up on LaLa, and I really hope you guys are right about the amnesty part of it...Not that I am admitting anything. This e-mail will self destruct in 5...4...3...2.

Mr. Foolish

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I love that you complain about the cost of a MacBook Air, but don’t

know how much it costs.

Most computer users do not edit images or video. The MacBook Air is

perfect for any lawyer, banker, stock broker… paper pushers. You

always filter every product through your own usage, which is extreme

and NOT the norm.

Terrie

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Hey Jamoto +1,

Here is a pic of a Segway-bound Brazilian I saw in the wild at Burning

Man this year. The woman, with her fabulous pink tutu and umbrella, rented

it for $350 for the week. Due to a lack of rain, the playa dust was

uncharacteristically deep and terrible to bike in, making a Segway an

ideal vehicle this time round. As long as you didn’t run out of juice on

the way out, of course.

http://flickr.com/photos/catlaine/2827716966/in/set-72157607102831140/

Cheers.

Cat

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